<![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> @njudahchronicles:
Preach it brother!


Darkweave

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> Wow, cool reportage. So Charlie - there are several statements in this that really make it sound like the cast/crew is assuming there will be a second season. Was that your impression in the room? I hope it's true because I'm enjoying the show, most especially the Glaubot. *g*

ProgGrrl

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> @Annalee Newitz: So, Rise of the Machines is your Highlander 2 for this franchise? ;)

Rest assured, Terminator 3 is already inconsistent with the first two movies, so feel free to exile it to a timeline cul-de-sac at your leisure...

TheAlmanac

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> @ElijahDProphet
Well my whole point is, they can both go back to different times, but only if they both leave at the exact same time. Otherwise the first one back breaks reality in the future preventing the second from ever going back. Still, you're right I guess since the whole Kyle scenario requires a terminator in the past.

@hageesheart
I know. I'm just saying that its impossible to have a truly strict canon once causality goes out the window. I can come up with lots of ways that the series works out fine into the story. Its just a matter of understanding that the future is actually breaking the past, and changing the original canon.

theOmegaMan

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> @theOmegaMan: Okay, but the trick with fantastic stories is that they have to make sense within their own pre-supposed "suspension of disbelief" rules, and (ideally) once those rules are in place, you stick with them. This show hasn't really done that yet because I don't think they've really thought the rules through, so they're just doing what they need to do to get from scene A to scene B and maintain momentum for the next episode. Which irritates me mostly because world-building is what makes sci-fi so much fun.

hageesheart

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> @theOmegaMan: I disagree, but only barely.

Kyle had to be sent back even if Arnie was not, because John in the future knows Kyle is his dad, and also knows Arnie gets sent back to kill him.

Kyle could have been sent back first, but sent to a later date.

ElijahDProphet

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> in other words time travel is a different kind of weapon. Its not who wins in the past. Its the first person to change the past that wins.

theOmegaMan

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> The canon doesn't actually hold up in a single movie. Take terminator 1 for instance.

Movie Scenario:
Future: Skynet sends back Arnie then Resistance sends back Kyle. These are seperate events happening at slightly different times.

Past: Arnie arrives and Kyle arrives next. Terminator 1 happens.

Real Scenario (assuming time travle and robot war...):
Future:Skynet sends back Arnie before resistance gets too send back Kyle.

Past: Arnie arrives kills Sarah. Future has no leader. Skynet wins.

Explanation: As soon as the terminator is sent back the future changes, Kyle no longer exists to be sent back.

AKA. Any time-travel necessarily revokes the validity of a canon system so I agree with the Producer

theOmegaMan

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> What are the chances of a series 2? I'm enjoying the show but I was under the impression I'm in the minority.

Little Time Bomb

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> @TheAlmanac: Any excuse to excise Terminator III from the timeline is OK in my book.

Annalee Newitz

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> The existence of multiple contradictory Terminator narratives is fine, because even without the TV show you couldn't make everything hold together as one canon, insisted Executive Producer John Wirth.

It sounds like the people in charge of this franchise now are taking an approach similar to that of the Highlander franchise, which has about half a dozen separate continuities at this point. The only event each canon has in common is the first movie, and the Terminator timelines seem to have arrived at similar territory...

TheAlmanac

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> I would just like to say that Summer looks hella hot up there.

Plague

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> They're ok with multiple contradictory Terminator narratives? Well, that explains a lot.

extracrispy

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> Maybe I haven't been watching the same Terminator as you... but so far, Sarah Connor hasn't been very Alpha.

misteral

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> @Discrete-Daniel: I thought they made that, it was called "Last scene in Serenity"

Also, GET YOUR HAIR OUT OF YOUR FACE KID!

ElijahDProphet

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> Dekker IS kittenish, isn't he? Aw, kawaii!

SeeingI

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> I hope the Ballet is titled "River Tam Beats Up Everyone". That would be awesome!

[xkcd.com]

Discrete-Daniel

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> "The existence of multiple contradictory Terminator narratives is fine, because even without the TV show you couldn't make everything hold together as one canon, insisted Executive Producer John Wirth."

They just haven't tried hard enough. Outsource it to the fans, and they will make Power Rangers hold together as one canon.

antho

]]> <![CDATA["Terminator" Producer Wanted To Bring Back Kyle Reese From The Dead]]> summer glau rocks!

njudah

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