Pope John Peeps II

I was reading Bailius's ideas about Supes and saying to myself, "Yeah, they should write that," until bluewyvern pointed out that that would make him The Doctor.

*sigh* I'm not sure there's any way to make that character interesting. (There's always the Superman analog in Top Ten who turns out to be a child molester, but somehow I don't think DC would go for that.)

inconstant_reader

evilfremen

AndrewMac

I think you're right, though. You really can't go wrong with more psychological depth. I advocate it for pretty much everything...drama should be character-driven!

As not a superhero comics reader, the only Superman/Batman team-up I've ever seen was in the Superman animated series, and the only part of it I can remember is a great scene with Lois Lane snarking at Bruce Wayne and fetching him some "burning, stinging iodine" for a wound. But I do remember that it was my favorite ep from that whole show, so something must have been working.

bluewyvern

"Bruuuucey, youv'e got a lot of s'plaining to do"!

Cantonkid

cde

KiddChaos

ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!)

It's got to suck being Superman. You're supposedly the last of your species, which has got to instill a level of loneliness that just doesn't appear. On top of that, you're raised with a moral absolutist outlook on the world, at odds with the reality of your ability to prevent or repair each, but not all, negative event. Not only those in your life, but in the entire world, entire galaxy, entire multiverse. Every obituary, natural disaster, dictator, war, lost pet, rained out baseball-game, polluted city, etc would be entirely on your shoulders. With the super-vision and hearing, you can even hear the death-throes and watch the lives of people unravel due to your lack of intervention.

Not even natural deaths can be shrugged off, since as a super-genius with access to incredibly advanced medicine, you could have been spending your time curing disease and helping people live better.

On top of that, with the ability to travel through time and a working knowledge of the parallel universes DC is composed of, not only current maladies are at your feet, but EVERY BAD THING THATS EVER HAPPENED TO ANYONE IN ANY DIMENSION is the result of you not taking action.

And the man wastes his time with a day-job and secret identity. Taking a full-life's worth of personal time measured in the blood of the innocent has got to make one feel guilty...

I'd love to see Kent have a bad day, throw down his tie, then enslave the world, slaughtering all the petty evil people in a single heartbeat. End of the issue, he sighs, reverses time, and goes to work.

Basically, Batman should be the more optimistic of the two. Batman knows that he's doing more than anyone could ask of any man, Supes that his lack of action has caused countless levels of despair.

Balius

TheAlmanac

causeiambetta

upwithgravity

Hes way too much of a boyscout.

I remember watching on of his earlier cartoons and back then he just had ideals and opinions. In the earlier comics he tackled social issues like husbands abusing their wives and crooked politicians.

I think he should play less "by the rules". No be a vigilante by any means but he should definitely play by the rules of someone who has pretty much every superpower known to man that has and idealistic view of the world.

Prevent wars, stop the war on drugs, tackle more down to earth villians (child molesters rapists), have an opinion that might offend people (maybe hes for stem-cell research or against a womens right to choose).

The guy can do ANYTHING. Make him act like it.

Josimba

Bats beats the crap out of Supes in the beginning, and it turns out Supes and Wonder Woman has a love child!

Not a classic, but enjoyable.

Lars

timwayne

I strongly recommend the animated Batman Superman crossover team-up movie "Worlds Finest" Buy it/rent/watch it!!!!
Mark Hamill's over the top Joker makes a deal with Luthor to kill Superman while Bruce Wayne is visiting Metropolis. I love the sceen where they first meet. Supes is totally owned by Bats!
PLUS it has a cat fight between Luthor's Mercy and Joker's Harley Quinn!!!!

What More Do You Need

IchabodCrane

Grey_Area

handngrain

robocop_is_bleeding

ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!)

michealk

Plague

The problem with the book is in its disingenuous origins. There's simply no reason for these two guys to be together all the time. Each is a drag on the others style. It only exists to pair the top two heroes at DC to make money (much like Stan Lee admitted was the only reason The Avengers were created). The simple fact it can be so awful and still make a dollar is sad proof of it. Imagine a Spider-man and Wolverine book. Actually, you don't have to, it's called New Avengers and just like that book it will sell no matter how much it sucks. But take Spidey and Wolverine out and that book will be dead before dawn.

Macloserboy

/imagining them both laughing with heads thrown back while Gorilla Grodd writhes in fetal position

DeepFriar

"Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuce! Why are you flying straight into the anti-matter hole!"

"Why? I'm the GODDAMN Batman."

mitchel_stevens

Then maybe we could do it all again in the next issue/sequel.

Hart

NefariousNewt

NefariousNewt

TommySez

@ratlas: Aquaman.

92BuickLeSabre

Mathmos

Dead Air ummm Dead Air

Ed Grabianowski

Look, I'm tired. And I've only got a few more weeks left before I can collect my JLA pension and retire to the Fortress for a life of Solitude. So the last thing I need is some kind of brooding, suicidal, manic partner!"

92BuickLeSabre

moff

Loserface

Emilia

BloggyMcBlogBlog

I eagerly await the scene in which Batman gets tossed into Arkham, and bets Supes that he can get out of the straitjacket, and proceeds to do so by dislocating his shoulder.

zerofritz

One of these days Batman is just going to put on a kryptonite glove and bitch slap Superman for being annoying.

Garrison Dean, King Awesome

This comic started off really good, got bad, got even worse, then got a little better, and is now kinda meh. I agree that it needs something.

Szin