<![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> Jack Kirby, mofos. [en.wikipedia.org] Stan Lee deserves nothing more than a Lifetime Award for Biggest Self-Serving Asshole in Comics.

halloweenjack

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> And Edison didn't make most of the inventions, and henry ford only made one or two actual cars.

However, Lee sure convinced a bunch of people that he was responsible for doing *something*

What do i know? i gave up on Marvel when Jack Kirby was still drawing.

It's not an aesthetic judgment, it was was economic. Rolling papers and used paperbacks or Shiny New Marvel Comics. When it takes you longer to earn the 35 cents for a comic than it takes to read the damn thing, no hard choice.

And then there was Zap Comix. Those took a while to read. Eons, sometimes.

codydog

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> @sumocat: Actually, he didn't script them and there's a lot of debate about whether he actually plotted them. It wasn't a writer+artist process like the one that typically describes how most of today's comics are created.

extracrispy

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> @extracrispy: So basically you're bothered that he doesn't draw. He's a writer. He teamed with artists to create comic books, as is normal. Furthermore, he scripted and plotted the characters' stories, essentially defining their personalities and essential conflicts. What came before the introductory stories is up for debate. That he wrote the stories that shaped the characters is established history.

sumocat

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> @Ravac: I thought he was flipping ME off.

edosan

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> See, here's the thing about Stan Lee that's always bothered me... he's NOT single-handedly responsible for creating any of the characters he's famously associated with. There's a lot of debate about just how involved he was in the creative process.

And reading that somewhat retarded paragraph (not to mention, uh, Stripperella), I have a hard time believing he was much involved with the teen angst of Spider-Man, X-Men, etc.

extracrispy

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> @Final: Let me know when you find out, because they shut the gas off in my building a month and a half ago, and I wanna know when the fuck I can use my stove again.

moff

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> OK but when's the next season of Who Want's to be a Super?

Final

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> Why is Stan Lee flipping me off?

Ravac

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> I'm taking my nephew to CC on Saturday. He is a huge starwars geek and this will be his first con of any kind. He's not huge into comics though. Is there much general SF/Fantasy on the floor? or did i choose unwisely

rcreveli

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> @Graeme: How could you NOT come up with the idea of she-hulk?

Take everything that makes the Hulk cool, and make it hot. With breasts. How is that NOT a great idea?

zenpoet

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> Face front, true believer!

Spiral

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> The Green. Oh yes. I went there.
Not only am I a punster, I don't follow the rules. Now I'm going to turn my collar up, slick back my hair, put on a leather jacket and go "Eyyyyyy" because my definition of cool is hilariously out of date. And the Fonz.


Ghede

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> @braak: He thinks they're...great. They're just...great. Really, truly great. There's nothing greater than the great range of great adjectives available for him to use when he's addressing his many great, great fans.

moff

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> @braak: He is single-handedly responsible making the angst-ridden superhero someone you could identify with.

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> I'm going on the 18th! I'm pretty sure the answer has something to do with dominatrices and that weird fetish where ladies crush things under their feet, though.

moff

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> Oh come now... I always like She-Hulk.

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[The Man Receives His Own Excelsior]]> Man. There's no one that likes adjectives more than Stan Lee.

braak

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