<![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction - io9 Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/io9.com.png <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction - io9 Comments]]> http://io9.com Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:43:57 PDT Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:43:57 PDT http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c5090773 @femto: It's unlikely we'll see any good movies from her books after she's dead either.

Chiper

]]> 8:372158:c5090773 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:43:57 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c5017905 Temeraire! Equal time for helpless Temeraire fangirls.

yatima

]]> 8:372158:c5017905 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:43:50 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4963027 when the T-Rex arrives with his deadly stomping and long teeth

The T-Rex is a female...yeah, some of the dinosaurs switched sexes, but there was no mention of more than one T-Rex even being created.

penprickle

]]> 8:372158:c4963027 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:10:24 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4958775 @Bellatrixie: @Chiper: Like I said, I'll take my grandchildren to see it someday. May Anne Macaffrey live to be 105, but we're not seeing any good movies from her books until she's dead.

femto

]]> 8:372158:c4958775 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:14:31 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c5428155 Comment on Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction There were dragons in Reign of Fire? I was too busy watching Christian Bale's muscles ripple. :-)

KyleMaguffin

]]> 8:372158:c5428155 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:49:34 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4919202 @SavannahJack:
The cover of the 1964 Galaxy Magazine in which "The Dragon Masters" appeared had a cover by Jack Gaughan whose art in my mind is always joined to Vance and Andre Norton.
You can see and click on that great cover here:
[www.biblio.com]

EmperorofMongo

]]> 8:372158:c4919202 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:03:53 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4903666 @bluewyvern: I read Dragon's Blood so many times in junior high; they didn't have the other two books in the library, but I think I eventually got a hold of them. I was actually thinking of those as I read the post, too. Great, great books.

moff

]]> 8:372158:c4903666 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:36:58 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4899600 @femto: I've given up on a DRoP movie or tv series (same as I've given up on Enders Game). Four times it's been licensed for a screen adaptation, and all four times the project has fallen apart because the producers wanted to change too much.
While DragonFlight and DragonQuest would both make excellent films, the later novels wouldn't play out well on their own.

I bought a Dreamcast specifically so that I could play the DragonRiders adventure game. The gameplay sucked, but I loved it all the same.

Chiper

]]> 8:372158:c4899600 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:33:30 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4899338 Reign of Fire is a brilliant movie and my fav dragon movie by far.

DragonSlayer I'd say is a classic and was the best dragon movie before RoF. It had its corny moments, but over all they did an amazing job with the special effects avaiable at the time. It was also a well done, triumphal hero story.

And what about Tiamat from D&D???

ParJoe

]]> 8:372158:c4899338 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:25:37 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4898519 Sean Connery in Dragonheart

Auld_Lang_Ziety

]]> 8:372158:c4898519 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:56:24 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4896508 @femto: There was rumor of a television series a while back.

Bellatrixie

]]> 8:372158:c4896508 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:31:58 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4896492 @Annalee Newitz: I think it would be more correct to say "Dinosaurs are like dragons brought to you by superstition."

Bellatrixie

]]> 8:372158:c4896492 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:31:31 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4895721 One day, there's going to be an awesome Dragonriders of Pern movie series, and I'm going to take my grandchildren to see it.

femto

]]> 8:372158:c4895721 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:55:19 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4894123 Wow, no one mentioned Jane Yolen's Pit Dragon series yet? On the planet Austar, I believe it was called, an oppressed populace of mostly indentured servants lightens their dreary lives by watching their favorite blood sport, gladiatorial contests between trained fighting dragons who have a telepathic bond with their coaches (who use the familiar form of address "Thee" when speaking to their dragons as a sign of intimacy). All the female dragons had "Heart" in their name (there may have even been a Heart of Gold), and all the males had "Blood" (like Bloody Flag and Blood Brother -- those two names stuck in my head). Our young hero, who works at -- really, belongs to -- a dragon farm, steals an unhatched egg and raises it in secret to be a fighting champion, hoping to earn his freedom.

What with all the fantasy dragons in a sci-fi world, egg hatching drama, and telepathic human-dragon companionship, it was like a dark mirror Pern. I loved it. I should really read the series again sometime, I haven't since I was a kid...

bluewyvern

]]> 8:372158:c4894123 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:21:07 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4894051 I'm sort of very tired so I just perused the comments here but your list has a big flaw: jack vance's dragon masters are missing, one of the strangest, best, most action-packed and thought-provoking small SF books I know, WITH DRAGONS in several shapes and sizes. And aliens. and no vodka at all.

ghost

]]> 8:372158:c4894051 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:44:21 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4893982 @dOk: TROGDOR! Burninating the countryside!

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4893982 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:18:03 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4893537 @X: The Eliminator: Have to agree....Vermithrax the dragon from Dragonslayer remains 'the' dragon in my formative memory. Everything else I have seen since all the way up to D-War has never seemed quite as epic as that one (perhaps because it was a CG free design, i'm not sure). Even Dragon Heart left me feeling less than Dragonlike...

Perhaps that is because I always pictured dragons as these massive entities like Smaug from The Hobbit. Let's hope they get him right.

Cantonkid

]]> 8:372158:c4893537 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:57:47 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4893404 i love dragons, i call my adoptive twins "the twin dragons" they are a force to be reconciled with & loyal to the end.-blurey

blurey

]]> 8:372158:c4893404 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:34:44 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4892305 oh yeah, the dragon in 'beowulf' was the best thing about that film.

X: The Eliminator

]]> 8:372158:c4892305 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:30:57 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4892282 if someone mentioned it already sorry, there's a lot of comments on this thread that i just skipped....what about Dragon Slayer?? so it's fantasy - so is reign of fire. much more than it is sci-fi.

besides everything that made the dragons of RoF cool was already done in DS. except DS was cooler. way cooler. it had scale and grandeur which RoF lacked. (i've seen RoF 4 times so i'm quite familiar with it.) i'm not sure how this film slipped off the rails.

king ghidorah rules. especially in zone fighter.

X: The Eliminator

]]> 8:372158:c4892282 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:28:38 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4892024 The first true reveal was in All the Weyrs of Pern, I think, where they find the original colonists' spacecraft still orbiting the planet....

jcormier

]]> 8:372158:c4892024 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:05:49 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4891571 Oh Yea... and how could i have forgotten...

Trogdor the Burinator!

XD

dOk

]]> 8:372158:c4891571 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:32:58 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4890751 I think Heinlein's "Star Beast" and Foster's Pip and Flinx stories count as science fiction stories about dragons - if Pip counts a mini-dragon. As I recall these were pleasant YA stories.

Swanwick's "Iron Dragon's Daughter" is a mutant hybrid of Fantasy and Science Fiction but as I recall, the dragons are not main characters. This is a bit of a cheat, but it was not your standard Fantasy - it was really different, with lots of technology, and very dark.

Citing Zelanzy's "Creatures of Light and Darkness" is a much bigger cheat. This is another one of those hybrids of science fiction and fantasy that Zelazny was so fond of. I loved this story. I always pictured the "Nameless" beast of the story as a huge shape changing dragon but maybe it was actually more of a giant snake. Anyone remember?

atfon

]]> 8:372158:c4890751 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:24:52 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4890587 "Dragon" is the name of the mysterious not-quite-artificial, not-quite-malevolent life form in the Ian Cormac novels.

Rasselas

]]> 8:372158:c4890587 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:10:05 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4890369 @zorazero Actually the reveal was in The White Dragon. They led up to it by having the coy references to the mural in Benden Weyr that you can kind of tell is a strand of DNA. And then they discover the spaceship on the Southern Continent and it has a bunch of junk in it that explains they bred dragons from fire lizards in a desperate attempt to save the world from Thread!

*Pern wonkery over & out*

Liz Henry

]]> 8:372158:c4890369 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:50:22 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4889559 @mikecoscia: That was a great show actually. A little cheap on the CG, but very creative I thought. Gave biological explanations for fire breathing too. I'd say it's the very definition of Scifi.

sicadastra

]]> 8:372158:c4889559 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:53:24 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4888036 @Nudemanatee: Uummmm....wel, you see.......Hey! Look over there! It's Christian Bale half naked!!!

Oh wait, now I remember, its because it wasn't just two guys! There was a woman. Yes, that has to be it, its because of the woman. Kind of like Kryptonite to dragons, yessir.

Bob_of_Mars

]]> 8:372158:c4888036 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:16:32 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4887695 Yes....
I read the talk-back about Dinosaurs NOT being Dragons...
but...
I can't help it... I have to mention that if you are including T-Rexes, then where is the T-Rex from "Valley Of Gwangi"

dOk

]]> 8:372158:c4887695 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:59:28 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4887128 @Julian Bond: Already talked about Q here: [io9.com]

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4887128 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:37:49 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4886225 Deeply disappointed you didn't have "Q. The Winged Serpent" starring David Carradine. [www.imdb.com]

Julian Bond

]]> 8:372158:c4886225 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:04:00 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4886069 @Project Thanatos:

I remember the old Bob and Ray skit.

[www.bobandray.com]

Click on Komodo Dragon.

AlfaCharger

]]> 8:372158:c4886069 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:58:59 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885978 @Bob_of_Mars: I understand how the dragons kicked the world's collective ass, I just don't understand how two guys destroyed the dragons. Even though it was at dusk!

Nudemanatee

]]> 8:372158:c4885978 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:56:11 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885887 I loved how the sci-fi tie-in was so artfully done in the Pern series - I remember that I was eleven when 'Dragonsdawn' came out with the big reveal, and I totally wasn't expecting it. Doubly excellent, because at that age I was starting to get the feeling that fantasy was lame compared to sci-fi. Awesome! They weren't medieval dragons after all, just genetically engineered mutated flying lizards! And genetically mutated by a wise old Japanese lady at that! Because we all know that the Japanese are from the future. Which brings us all the way back to Godzilla.

zorazero

]]> 8:372158:c4885887 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:53:09 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885616 @Plague:
er, chalk.
Stop working and you might be able to spell.

Plague

]]> 8:372158:c4885616 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:45:29 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885515 @moff:
Well, you don't explain how dragons are "sci fi" and not "fantasy", but since you said "we'd had a lot to drink", I'll just chock it up to passing out.

Plague

]]> 8:372158:c4885515 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:42:24 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885379 @Bob_of_Mars: Thank you! As far as your "theory" goes, I guess we'll agree to disagree, as they say in ol' Whale's Vagina/San Diego.

moff

]]> 8:372158:c4885379 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:38:06 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885292 @moff: Firstly, that was hilarious. Secondly, ou are sort of correct, in an odd way: dinosaur bones, as well as other extinct animals' bones, did (in some cases at least) give rise to tales of wonderful beings such as griffins and dragons (again, not in all cases, but in many, especially along the trade routes between the Far East and the Middle East and Europe). So, yes, in a way, dinosaurs and dragons are related.
Again, that was hilarious!


Bob_of_Mars

]]> 8:372158:c4885292 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:35:08 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885194 @braak: Thanks! There used to be a graphic that went with it.

moff

]]> 8:372158:c4885194 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:32:08 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885145 @moff: That was pretty funny.

braak

]]> 8:372158:c4885145 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:30:31 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885101 @Nudemanatee: Oh, that's easy: numbers! In the trailer they said that the dragons went from 1-1 million+ in over a year. So, they grew large enough numbers to be a threat, started killing and destroying everything, more were born, etc. etc. Also, the dragons don't all amass in one place like an army, so they would have to be killed off one by one, meaning the military would be strewn out rather thin trying to take them out. Only in cities would they be in large numbers, and in that kind of terrain, they would have the advantage, because A: they kill everyone and destroy everything, the military would try to save people and buildings as much as possible, and B. because they are more maneuverable than any human built machines. So, there you have it.

Bob_of_Mars

]]> 8:372158:c4885101 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:28:57 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885079 Dragons are too real!

[en.wikipedia.org]

Project Thanatos

]]> 8:372158:c4885079 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:28:15 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885070 @Nudemanatee: Well, it's because they figured out that if you hunt dragons at dusk, their eyes have trouble adapting to the amount of available light, and so they don't see as well.

What I really want to know is, where did they get gas for that helicopter?

@Annalee Newitz: That would be another key difference between dragons and dinosaurs which did, historically, exist.

braak

]]> 8:372158:c4885070 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:27:51 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885052 Wow. I got here in just in time.

moff

]]> 8:372158:c4885052 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:27:25 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4885037 As a courtesy, I am clearing up the little "dinosaurs vs. dragons" brouhaha you people have going here by reposting something from an old blog on my current blog. (I'm actually surprised you "science buffs" haven't run across it previously.) You can thank me later:

[www.scribblescribblescribble.com]

moff

]]> 8:372158:c4885037 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:26:51 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4884972 Reign of Fire was awesome if you accept that Christian Bale and Gerard Butler were madly in love with each other. They'd even adopted a kid! It plays out as a total revenge tragedy that way.

The dragons are fantastic, even if Matthew McConaughey scared me more.

Pouncer

]]> 8:372158:c4884972 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:24:50 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4884855 @Nudemanatee: We could argue forever over what a dragon is. But since they don't exist, nobody would ever win.

However, we can definitely agree on a very WTF feeling about the weapons in Reign of Fire.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4884855 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:21:16 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4884813 @Ryan H: technically speaking, the Jurassic Park dinosaurs weren't dinosaurs, they were frog-dinosaur hybrids. So not specifically dinosaurs, just the closest they could get to them.

As far as what a dragon is, there is so much leeway in the definition it isn't even funny. Flight and fire-breathing? Nope, don't need it to be a technical dragon. In fact, the spitting Dilophosaurus in JP could count as a dragon.

Either way, nice list.

Bob_of_Mars

]]> 8:372158:c4884813 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:20:11 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4884457 1) Dinosaurs aren't dragons. They just flat out aren't. Crocodiles have scales and nasty, big, pointy teeth, but they aren't dragons either.

2) OASX is correct; the Dragons of Pern were genetically engineered by humans from the fire lizards native to Pern. I believe that was also in Dragonsdawn.

3)Reign of Fire: How do a few guys with a bazooka or two destroy the dragons that destroyed every tank, fighter jet, bomber, infantry troop, marine unit, special forces squadron, nuclear missile, and every other soldier and piece of weaponry in the combined armies of the entire planet?!!?? Hello! Can we at least throw in a plot device like "finds a mystical sword," or "discovered a magical ring," or "humans evolved dragon-killing farts," or something? Anything??!!

Nudemanatee

]]> 8:372158:c4884457 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:07:55 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4884034 @Annalee Newitz: That's kind of a substantial difference.

braak

]]> 8:372158:c4884034 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:52:37 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883872 Reign Of Fire - best bald Matthew McConaughy movie EVER!

DCI Gene Hunt

]]> 8:372158:c4883872 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:47:13 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883870 @braak: Yeah. But the only difference between them and dinosaurs was fire-breathing.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4883870 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:47:11 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883698 Oh and hey you should have gave mentioned Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real. Think it was on the discovery channel a few years back. Showed how dragons might actually fly, breath fire, etc if they existed. Also showed their evolution from appearance during the cretaceous age to their extinction in medieval times. Again if they really did exist. Which they don't, but def made you think for a second. Great film.

mikecoscia

]]> 8:372158:c4883698 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:43:03 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883576 I really liked Reign of Fire, just bought it on blu-ray recently too.

mikecoscia

]]> 8:372158:c4883576 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:39:16 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883249 @Annalee Newitz: Weren't the dragons in Reign of Fire actual dragons brought to you by evolution?

braak

]]> 8:372158:c4883249 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:28:11 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883180 @Oasx: Really? Which book/story is that in? If you can give me a cite, I will fix.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4883180 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:25:14 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883168 I thought that thread came every 400 years. And humans didn't crash, they settled there.

That's what PERN means, Parallel Earth, Resources Negligible. It's in one of the back story books. They came from an advanced future and all.

Oh, and they're not so medieval in the later books, they find the original landing site with computer and advanced plastics and all. (Sorry, I forget the computers name, but he shut's down when the Master Harper dies anyway.)

Sturm Truppen

]]> 8:372158:c4883168 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:24:31 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883152 @Macloserboy: Sometimes I post stuff that's deliberately incomplete just because fighting with you cheers me up.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4883152 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:23:56 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883142 @Macloserboy:
(tips his hat)

Plague

]]> 8:372158:c4883142 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:23:29 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883121 @Project Thanatos: Oh hai, it's actually Annalee. kthxbai.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4883121 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:22:53 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4883114 @Annalee Newitz: I wish you would. Unlike most of your lists it would be well supported with facts.

Macloserboy

]]> 8:372158:c4883114 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:22:37 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882888 "Dragons, complete with fire-breathing and psychic powers, are natives of this planet."

Actually they arent, the fire-lizards are an original species and the human settlers created the dragons on that 'design' in order to combat thread

Oasx

]]> 8:372158:c4882888 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:15:05 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882816 @Annalee Newitz: Will do when I get home Anna. Also.. what about Bahamut from the Final Fantasy Series? I'll post pics and scans as well. :D

Project Thanatos

]]> 8:372158:c4882816 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:12:59 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882656 @Project Thanatos: Scans! Yes! Post 'em and I'll link to them.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4882656 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:06:12 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882601 @Macloserboy: I should do a list of "Macloserboy's top ten complaints" so he can complain about all the stuff I left out.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4882601 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:04:17 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882533 @MarsFlyer: I can't even understand what your point is. Dragons are possible? Dinosaurs are elves? What?

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4882533 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:01:56 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882449 Weak, weak, weak, dood! Dinos as dragons? That is not just a stretch; it is totally wrong. Dinos are the "dragons that evolution gave us"? That almost makes it sound like you're making reality fit fantasy. (Yes, dragons are pure fantasy, obviously. Unlike dinosaurs. Huh, who knew? Not io9, apparently.) Science fiction is about possible realities -- even remotely possible -- not about a mishmash of fairy tales thrown in just for kicks. Fantasy has its place, sure, but as an example, you can't throw Elves from a fantastic past into the genetic engineering broth of today/the future. That wouldn't be SF. Repeat after me: a T-Rex is a dino is a dino is a dino ...

MarsFlyer

]]> 8:372158:c4882449 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:58:52 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882408 @Macloserboy: I can't wait til they just drop the pretenses and just say "Hey, Guess Which semi-obscure movies we saw this week!!!"

Garrison Dean, King Awesome

]]> 8:372158:c4882408 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:57:28 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4882141 I think the interwebz ate my comments/replies. :(

Project Thanatos

]]> 8:372158:c4882141 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:47:58 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881907 @Annalee Newitz: Why must you mock me! ;_; Seriously though Anna... repost with at the very least.. LOCKHEED. Shadowcat was my favorite heroine growing up and Lockheed was the billy-badass of the Excalibur series. In fact as the years past it was revealed that Lockheed has an incredible intellect and devotion to Kitty and the X-Men. Even his own planet of Lockheed-esque people. I have the issues at home if you need scans :)

Project Thanatos

]]> 8:372158:c4881907 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:39:53 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881598 Lockheed wins "Best Dragon Overbite" and is undeniably badass and compact, but Vermithrax Pejorative from Dragonslayer remains the best screen dragon ever made, whatever genre you want to lump it into.

Rus

]]> 8:372158:c4881598 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:27:25 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881483 @Annalee Newitz: That is just...weak. You couldn't find or think of enough examples to support your idea so you fudge it the way I09 always does, like with that "Science Fiction Movies You Didn't Know Were Science Fiction" list the other day.

Macloserboy

]]> 8:372158:c4881483 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:24:03 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881481 I think Sean Connery from 'Dragonheart' would have been a much better choice than trying to swing dinosaurs. On another note, the McCaffery books were a great read. Kudos.

LiuHaoZhong

]]> 8:372158:c4881481 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:24:02 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881398 @Project Thanatos: If you haven't checked it out yet, go get NextWave: Agents of Hate for some Fin Fang Foom love

DeepFriar

]]> 8:372158:c4881398 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:21:00 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881378 @Project Thanatos: Dude everybody knows the Runaways! What is this X-Men thing you're talking about?

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4881378 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:20:25 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881364 No love for Drangon Heart?

Sean Connery's finest acting work since he showed up on Jeopardy.
"I'll take 'Anal Bum Cover" for a thousand!"


DeepFriar

]]> 8:372158:c4881364 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:20:02 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4881092 No Fin Fang Foom? Wow... I'm disappointed io9. You include the Runaways character that a handfull of people will recognize but not Fing Fang Foom? HELL, what abotu Lockheed from the X-men? (Shadowcat aka Kitty Pryde's pet/guardian?)

Project Thanatos

]]> 8:372158:c4881092 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:11:34 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4880816 Anybody ever read The Iron Dragon's daughter? That was a sci-fi/fantasy story about a cybernetic dragon. And it was really bizarre.

B

]]> 8:372158:c4880816 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:02:49 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4880739 @Annalee Newitz: Lockeed trumps all Marvel dragons. He stopped his girlfriend from eating Tokyo.

Spoondizzle

]]> 8:372158:c4880739 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:00:09 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4880662 @Spoondizzle: No way. See my earlier comment. Dinosaurs are the dragons evolution gave us.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4880662 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:57:22 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4880015 Old Lace is a dinosaur. Lockheed is a dragon.

I call BS on this list.

Spoondizzle

]]> 8:372158:c4880015 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:35:09 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879959 It wasn't science fiction, but for me, no cinematic dragon can touch the one from "Dragon Slayer."

When I was in the 7th Grade I came up with the "organic napalm" theory for how dragons could breathe fire. Now I'm pissed that some crappy movie ripped off my idea. I'll be checking the credits for names of people in Mr. Kriss' science class circa 1984 so I can get my lawyers on the case.

SeeingI

]]> 8:372158:c4879959 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:33:21 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879779 @Ryan H: Dinosaurs are like dragons brought to you by evolution.

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4879779 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:27:13 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879760 @SavannahJack: Wow, I didn't know about that one. Want!

Annalee Newitz

]]> 8:372158:c4879760 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:26:36 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879755 Although Dragonslayer was a Fantasy Film, the film score by North featured music he composed (and latter rejected for the Temp tracks) for Kubrick's 2001.

Some SciFi connection.

AlfaCharger

]]> 8:372158:c4879755 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:26:30 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879637 dragons, head-biting or not, just aren't that scary to me. i only think Falkor and chinese good luck symbols. serpents, OTOH, slimy and creepy, indicating the "state of total sexual doubt"--those are some monsters

pinafore

]]> 8:372158:c4879637 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:22:50 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879356 And what about the Dragon Masters series by Jack Vance, where the dragons were sentient and bred humans to be various sub-species of warrior, so the humans returned the favor and bred captured dragons into Termigants, Blue Murderers and (my personal favorite) Juggers?
Run-on sentence aside, this is an early "dragons from genetic manipulation" story that certainly deserves mention.


SavannahJack

]]> 8:372158:c4879356 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:14:32 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879285 "It's hinted that long ago, the humans crash-landed their spaceships on Pern and never left."

It is a lot more than hinted, it is explicitly said. The novel Dragonsdawn (1988) describes the landing on the planet.

wyst

]]> 8:372158:c4879285 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:12:53 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879257 @Whitworthian: ...and what a movie trilogy that would make eh?

Epaminondas

]]> 8:372158:c4879257 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:11:56 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4879038 I'd add the dragons from the otherwise execrable "Dragon Storm," which airs frequently on Sci-Fi. Despite the usual trappings of Sci-Fi productions (Eastern European locations, "kingdoms" of about a dozen people, and a hero who's supposed to be a woodsman but holds a bow and arrow like a spoiled rich girl afraid of breaking a nail), the CGI dragons are freakin' first rate. I always suspected the effects animators put a lot of their own time into these, because they're cool way beyond the call of duty.

ruadan63

]]> 8:372158:c4879038 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:04:48 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4878930 Godzilla Vs. King Ghidorah is probably my favorite from that era.

Szin

]]> 8:372158:c4878930 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:00:56 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4878795 Any of the dinosaur-people from Harry Harrison's 'West of Eden' novels would qualify here.

Whitworthian

]]> 8:372158:c4878795 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:56:08 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4878680 I don't think those last two count. They are explicitly dinosaurs. Now, while dinosaurs are their own breed of kick-ass, they are not dragons. I think the prerequisite to be a dragon includes at least flight or fire breathing.

Besides, Old lace is specifically identified as a psychic deinonychus.

Ryan H

]]> 8:372158:c4878680 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:52:59 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4878660 needs more D Wars

Steve

]]> 8:372158:c4878660 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:52:30 PDT <![CDATA[Six Bite-Your-Head Brilliant Dragons from Science Fiction]]> http://io9.com/372158/six-bite+your+head-brilliant-dragons-from-science-fiction#c4878503 One of the E.E. Smith Lensmen was dragon-like.

Mathmos

]]> 8:372158:c4878503 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:47:21 PDT