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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4924086">corpore-metal</a>: If you choose to wear one of those goofy looking bike helmets with wires and little blinking lights instead of having a cool jack directly into your skull, that's your perogative.<br>
I laugh danger in the face! I will live the dream of a fully opted cybernetic body, damn the consequences.</p> <p>Katana_Mind</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4924086">corpore-metal</a>: I guess in theory you could use rTMS, but my understanding of the technology is that it is mainly used to 'turn off' areas of the cortex, rather then being able to act as an information channel. Not my field though (so I'm probably wrong). I dont think the science or the engineering problems are insurmountable. The cultaral taboos might be though.</p>
<p>What I was trying to say with my first post was that unless your non invasive headset also has a way of actively passing information to the user, a lot of the proposed uses for the technology are no longer possible. An example would be a user of a prosthetic limb - ideally you want your implanted electrodes to not just detect the impulse to move the limb, but also to return information to the brain about touch, orientation etc (in some fashion that can be interpreted by the brain, but that is a whole other problem). I agree that for the enthusiast user the non invasive approach is always going to be more attractive, but for therapeutic uses I think that invasive is most likely the more appropriate.</p> <p>Motivated</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://io9.com/373180/ultrathin-rubbery-circuits-bring-us-one-step-closer-to-google-brain-implants#c4922306">Motivated</A>:</P>
<P>1) Couldn't the neurons be stimulated by rTMS or something similar?</P>
<P>Or couldn't the replies just be sent through displays in your contact lenses?</P>
<P>2) &amp; 3) Yes, there are problems with both methods. The least of which would be that MRI machines are giant hulking monsters.</P>
<P>Basically I'm positing enormous advances in remote brain imaging, data processing speeds, miniaturization and remote neural stimulation by magnetic fields.</P>
<P>The ideal would be a hat you just put on and it reads your brain and sends complex messages to it. I don't know if it's merely an engineering problem or just scientifically impossible.</P>
<P>But I'm just saying that for every attempt to hack the meat directly there is non-invasive fyborg solution lagging not far behind. Why take steroids to boost my strength when there's a perfectly good powered exoskeleton or forklift nearby? Why jam a soon to be obsolete PDA socket in my skull when my PDA can be made noninvasive and wearable?</P> <p>corpore-metal</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4920273">corpore-metal</a>: There are three problems with that approach. The first is straight forward, a helmet using some sort of EEG or fMRI is passive - so it can descern neural activity but there is no way to return information to the user.</p>
<p>The second and third problems are latency and resolution respectively. EEG based systems have very low latency, but the resolution of infomation they provide is very low. fMRI is the opposite - very high resolution, but the post proccessing of the data means that it can take up to 10 seconds to get infomation on the neural activity of the user.</p>
<p>Of course there are just as many problems with the direct implant approach as well, not the least of which is that long term implantation of electrodes leads to the death of nearby neurons...</p> <p>Motivated</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I've always been squeamish about jamming hardware into my skull. What about upgrades? Do I go in for surgery every time the new chipset comes out? No thanks!</P>
<P>I think a better way to do this brain-computer interface is wear some kind of helmet that's a portable fMRI/EEG/PET thing. It just scans your brain in realtime at molecular resolution. Basically it reads your mind.</P> <p>corpore-metal</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4915896">Jeff-Minor</a>: To paraphrase Mrs. Jackson: "you are n-o-t alone".<br>
I'm wondering why the antennae have to be ontop of the cranium? It seems so very Jetson-esque. I'm gonna have mine behind my ear, and behind the other ear there'll be a skulljack so I can mainline my pr0n and stuff.</p> <p>Katana_Mind</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I feel so alone in here with my transhuman fantasies :(<BR>I would have thought this would be so interesting for so many.</P></BR> <p>Jeff-Minor</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I'm ready for my implant-link-lace-whatever it is. I want to walk around while linked to the 'verse so I can multifunction to the point of insanity. Yeah, that's the idea! More data please! Satori via sensory overload!</P> <p>Jeff-Minor</p>]]></description>
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