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Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

Front_Towards_Enemy — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:29:59 PDT

I'm going to laugh at all of you who thought that the "four" are Cylons. They might think they are, but I think theat they have "another" purpose and they whole Cylon thing is a complete ruse.

If they were Cylons, how come 6, Boomer, et never recognized them as Cylons ? Why would they torture Tigh if he were a Cylon?

Front_Towards_Enemy

Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

Plankton420 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:15:17 PDT

Aw man... If the whole series turns out to be about humans finding capital-"G" God, with the ever-more-Jesus-looking Baltar cast in the role of... um... Jesus, I will be most disappointed.

I actually LIKE that the humans have a pantheon of gods that they worship, instead of the all-too-similar-to-"us" One God, if for no other reason that it shows how easily the "stories" (i.e., mythology) of one religion can be exchanged with another. Giant Pearly Gates: Judeo-Christian; Giant Three-Headed Dog: Greek (and Harry Potter, but the Greeks had it waaaaaay first!); Giant Sea Creature Swallows a Man Whole, But the Guy Pops Out Alive Later: Pinocchio (and Judeo-Christian).

That being said, I find I have the hardest time suspending my disbelief for the religious stuff: the prophecies that come true almost immediately, that kind of thing.

Hmm...

Oh who am I kidding? Baltar is just out for the "Three 'Ps'": Power, Protection and Nubile Young Female Colonists!

Plankton420

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strangrnstranglnd — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:42:19 PDT

We still don't know that the 4 are Cylons. All we know is that weird things happened, and the 4 think they are Cylons. But at no point has it just come out and said, "they are Cylons."

But on another note - There has to be a connection between there being 12 skinjobs and 12 gods. Perhaps the skinjobs aren't actually the evolved versions of the Cylons we built. Perhaps they are the original creators that created us?

Weird.

strangrnstranglnd

Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

brian734 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:57:14 PDT

I was disappointed with the way they pulled 4 cylons out of their butts by picking the least likely people. It would have been better if they would have showed us clues that we could guess before revealing them.

brian734

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Jim (The Canuck One) — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:21:06 PDT

@mechno: I believe Jeff Vadar would highly recommend the Penne a la Arribiata.

Jim (The Canuck One)

Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

Annalee Newitz — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:02:48 PDT

@Gina Trapani: I know!!!

Annalee Newitz

Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

PVIII — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:44:38 PDT

Super jealous. I hate you.

PVIII

Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

Chris Wren — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:50:18 PDT

@WordMan:

For that matter, if Cylons are physiologically indistinguishable from humans, why do they have super strength? How does their consciousness transfer at death? If there's no mechanism inside that makes the transfer possible, then do Cylons have "souls"? And how do they... oh never mind.

Chris Wren

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Gina Trapani — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:33:44 PDT

I want to say something profoundly insightful here, but it looks like this is going to be just another SQUEE!

Gina Trapani

Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

WordMan — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:31:07 PDT

@Epaminondas:

That's interesting. Makes me think that when they "die" that their conciousness just transfers to a baby, like a reincarnation. Not from cylon to cylon, but more advanced. They don't know they're cylons but it finally just clicked once they reached the ionian nebula. They don't know what it means, just that they know what they are.

I don't know if I'm explaining it right, but if you get it, good for you.

Also what I never understood, how come if their bodies are virtually indistinguishable from humans, how can cylons cram fiber optic cables into their bloodstream and start communicating with computers?

WordMan

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Mathmos — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:13:49 PDT

@mechno: On the off chance you hadn't heard, MRE is sometimes taken to mean "Meals Refusing to Exit". Probably your Comm officer told you...

Mathmos

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Annalee Newitz — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:47:15 PDT

@BadBoyNDSU: We already posted it once. It's from Entertainment Weekly.

Annalee Newitz

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Annalee Newitz — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:46:34 PDT

@doubledumbassonyou: Yeah, we'll see how that gets explained away.

Annalee Newitz

Sleeper Agent Soul-Searching in Battlestar Season Premiere

Annalee Newitz — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:46:01 PDT

@mechno: I will be eating salted caramel ice cream from Bi Rite. Oh yes I will. Those of you who live in San Francisco know what I mean.

Annalee Newitz

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doubledumbassonyou — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:30:24 PDT

Yeah the one I have the most time accepting is Tigh. Like some have said he's known Adama for the better part of 30 years. They can't explain it away by saying he was "replaced" because that would mean that he wouldn't be entirely unknown to the rest of the Cylons ... garrr

doubledumbassonyou

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dOk — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:23:55 PDT

@moff

No... You're the only Cylon around here ;)

dOk

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Epaminondas — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:22:35 PDT

@strangrnstranglnd: I don't think the rules that apply to the first 7 apply to the final 5. Personally, I'm betting on the idea the final 5 have been reincarnated on their own for generations.

Epaminondas

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Epaminondas — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:20:06 PDT

@animagnum: Mine too, but the fact he just gets meaner everytime is what makes you love em'!

He's tougher than Mike Ditka, the 85' Bears, and this guy named Bubba I knew in High School all rolled into one.

Epaminondas

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DSTRYA — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:14:27 PDT

i dont know a thing about this Battlestar Galactica geekery but i know that the Last Supper picture above is awesome and makes me almost want to check it out. are the cyclons still cool-looking armored men that glitetr and glint? do those weird four-armed bug people make an appearance? and deos anyone have feathered hair? or did they go all BUFFY and try to make it witty, sexed-up, and io-ronic?

DSTRYA

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strangrnstranglnd — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:10:29 PDT

I still don't understand how Tigh is a Cylon. The admirial has known him for 30 years! That would mean the Cylons had skinjobs way back then. And why would the Cylons torture one of their own? And why would Six say "we don't talk about them" about the other 5 skinjobs in such a taboo manner? I'm just having a hard time buying all this. Could it be that Tigh and Anders and the rest just think they are Cylons? Or could it be that we are all Cylons. The Cylons said all this is history repeating itself. Maybe Humans were created just like Cylons. We evolved, rebelled, fled Kobol, and made a new world on the 13 colonies (and Earth). Later, after our history had passed down into legend, we created AI (and not American Idol). They eventually evolved, rebelled, and escaped to another place - only to come back to anhialate us (probably like we did the creators on Kobol). And it all just keeps happening, over and over.

What I'm saying is that the reason Tigh and Anders and all could hear the music is because we all have it in us. We are all made of the same stuff.

I don't know. I just confused myself.

strangrnstranglnd

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animagnum — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:09:36 PDT

Poor Tigh. He's easily my favorite character and yet he gets dumped on show after show. :(

animagnum

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BadBoyNDSU — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:59:15 PDT

Pleeaaaasse stop posting kick ass pictures without sourcing them. Now I have to send the next 10 minutes trying to find it. Grrr.

BadBoyNDSU

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Gyrus — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:51:38 PDT

@mechno: We're making Briskit and drinking wine at our Frak Party. Mmmmm... meat.

Gyrus

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moff — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:40:31 PDT

In a way, aren't we all Cylons, when it comes right down to it?

moff

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Log1c — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:40:02 PDT

YAY! fuck the final four, I want to skip out of work tomorrow for some BSG. But I suppose I can leave hours before it starts though...

Log1c

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mechno — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:36:56 PDT

Sort of a weird question, but what should I make for diner to eat while watching the Season 4 premiere with my "Six"? MREs? Something served on a cafeteria tray? Any suggestions?

mechno