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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  That's gotta be tough.  Being born and then eaten by a Black Hole. Jeez.</p> <p><a href="http://www.neatorama.com">Silver_Back</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5346839">gStar</a>: Sorry but why can't there be a center to the after math of the big bang or the universe? I ask because like other explosions there is usually a center with the energy moving outwards. Are you suggesting multiple big bangs?</p> <p><a href="n/a">Illyr</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5349280">Lizzie24601</a>: Well, in Impossible Planet the, erm... planet was already too close to the blackhole. If one is within a certain distance of of the hole, one will get sucked in. If you're at a safe distance, not so much.</p>
<p>So, once again, the Doctor was right. And, of course he was: his people practically invented them.</p> <p><a href="http://www.dunny0.net">Dunny0</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5347237">aarchiba</a>: Wait, for real?  So all that stuff in movies and tv where black holes are planet-sucking equivalent of cosmic Dementors (Dr Who's Impossible Planet, I'm looking at you), that's all hogwash?</p>
<p>I'm kinda disappointed.</p> <p><a href="n/a">Lizzie24601</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5347237">aarchiba</a>:</p>
<p>I reject your reality and substitute my own, one with Ernest Borgnine and V.I.N.C.E.N.T.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hole#Cast">[en.wikipedia.org]</a></p> <p>Maddrjeffe</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5347237">aarchiba</a>: you just raised the bar for Internet discussion. Well done.</p> <p><a href="n/a">workingonyourinvoice</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@AdamL: it's actually quite hard for something to fall into a black hole. If you (somehow) compressed the Sun into a black hole, the orbits of the planets would be virtually unaffected. (It would get darker, though.) You can orbit a black hole just like you can orbit a star or a planet. In fact if you have a rock falling in towards the Sun from infinity, if it's not aimed exactly right it will whip around like a comet (in fact that's exactly what many comets are) and shoot back off to infinity. To actually fall into the Sun, it more or less needs to get so close as it whips by that it touches the Sun, slows down, and falls in.</p>
<p>Interplanetary spacecraft make use of both of these: if you want to make use of a gravitational slingshot around Jupiter (say), you come zipping in aimed to just miss it, it bends your path around to come out at a different angle, and then you shoot off again. If instead you want to slow down and land on Mars, you aim so close to it that as you're whipping past, you dip into the atmosphere and it slows you down. (If this sounds tricky to get right, it is, and it's why we've lost some Mars spacecraft.)</p>
<p>Black holes are incredibly tiny - it's hard to fall into the Sun, but if you made it into a black hole it would be only a few kilometers across, which is much much harder to fall into.</p>
<p>But black holes do manage to gobble up some matter in spite of their tininess. This usually happens in an accretion disk, when you've got a disc-shaped cloud of gas orbiting the stars. The gas is normally mostly in orbit, but this means the inner parts of the disc have to move faster than the outer parts. So some viscosity in the disc (which we don't fully understand) causes the outer parts to slow the inner parts, which lets the inner parts drift further inward. Eventually the gas moves so far inward it falls in. In the process all that viscosity heats the gas to millions of degrees Kelvin, so hot it produces X-rays we can see (which is how we know there are black holes).</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/afternoon_sunlight/">aarchiba</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5346476">Illyr</a>:</p>
<p>We don't believe there is a geometrical center of our universe, although there do seem to be massive black holes at the center of most galaxies. This is an interesting and puzzling result to many astronomers.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c5346507">AdamL</a>:</p>
<p>In most of the cluster, the force from the black hole is negligible compare to the force from the bulk of the stars. Very, very close to the black hole stars can spiral in and be eaten by the hole, but this relatively uncommon. Remember, the stars (as a group) have a total mass hundreds of times that of the hole.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c5346594">Illyr</a>:</p>
<p>This guy is only 20,000 light-years from here, so the stars are only 20,000 years older than we see them. We expect no appreciable difference in that time in the number of stars, though it is possible that few more may have wandered into the hole by then. This cluster is many billions of years old.</p> <p>gStar</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5346507">AdamL</a>: They could already be gone since we're looking in the past.</p> <p><a href="n/a">Illyr</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Yeah, me too. So will all of these eventually get sucked into the black hole, or are they just held in place?</P> <p>AdamL</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>If the bunching up signifies a black hole can this also mean that a black hole is also located in the center of the universe holding together galaxies? (I know this would interfere with the expansion of the universe) Sorry excuse the inaccuracies as I'm not a astronomer or astrophysicist, but just naturally interested by space.</p> <p><a href="n/a">Illyr</a></p>]]></description>
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