<![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit? - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit? - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @snodipous: Maybe check out the two links in the article. They both mention a lot of books.

superdewa

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @Jeff-Minor:

When I go into a bookstore, I'm usually not looking specifically for something, I'm going to browse. I may think, "Oh, I wanted X", glance at the shelf where it should be, and pick it up if it's there. If it's not, I just assume it's out of stock or not in yet and put it back in my "pick up sometime" mental pile.

shadownode

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @snodipous: try this publisher:
[www.firebirdbooks.com]
Some pretty smart YA books, not just Harry Potter re-treads.

Grey_Area

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> just as an aside, i have trouble finding YA Sci-Fi even in libraries. it took me some time to figure out that YASF was not kept even on the same floor as regular SF. but, some of it (most recently the newesst Gaiman novel) is very fun and good SF to read - the Pullman/HDM trilogy books are classified in this category too and are equally excellent.

joevideo

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> Awesome stuff happens in the kids section because are there are definite rules (no violence, no death, etc) to be broken. Kids know these rules, and relish when an author pushes and/or breaks them.

Kids love finding 'adult'-themes in children's literature. It makes them feel like the author is treating them like the mature, precocious kids that they are. The fact that most adults overlook it as mere-'children's' literature makes it all the more special.

Discrete-Daniel

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @Rasselas
When I figure out exactly what his philosophy is I'll let you know how it leaves me. Most of the time I find myself confused because a lot of his ideas are in the experimental stage and there isn't a lot of empirical evidence to support them. I'm waiting to see. The entire copyright thing is very interesting. I also like him because he's fairly quick to admit his human failings.


Jeff-Minor

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @Jeff-Minor: He, his product and his philosophy all leave me pretty cold, but de gustibus.

Rasselas

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> maybe stupid question: do they lump "manga" in with "YA SF/F"? because the Manga rack in most bookstores seems to be bigger now than the adult SF/F rack.

And it chaps my ass, because there's always a 12 yeard old (or worse, a 33 year old) sitting in the middle of the aisle reading Ham Ninja School Girls GO! when i'm trying to get past while avoiding cheeto stains.*

* ( I also eat cheetos and am a 33 year old)

zerofritz

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @Rasselas: I know. But seriously, part of his job is to promote himself and his product, and dare I say, his philosophy. This isn't the same sf culture that is was 10 years ago; it's growing because we can network through great places like i09. Thanks io9-ers.

Jeff-Minor

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @Jeff-Minor: I know. I just like leaving comments suggesting that his unending publicity campaign has left at least one mind still, frustratingly, a stranger to him.

Rasselas

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> people who were going to stores looking for my newest, Little Brother, were walking away unfulfilled because they were looking in the science fiction section, not the young adult section.

This was also a problem with Neal Stephenson's In the Beginning Was the Command Line. It sold like crap out of the computer book section where it "belonged" but would fly out of the SF section because that's where people actually look for books by Stephenson. That was my experience as a bookseller anyway.

rhorsman

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @wassermelone: Oh gawd, I stand corrected.

Rasselas, Cory Doctorow is the Young Prince of SF! He's...well, he's brilliant in so many ways that I don't even know where to begin. You need to read Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, or one of his others.

Jeff-Minor

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> Is there such a thing as a Young Adult Sci-fi genre? If there is, I haven't been able to find it. I've been working on a sci-fi book for a younger audience myself, and I thought I should see what else is out there, but it's a desert. Go to the book store and try to find a science fiction novel among the literally hundreds of sword-and-sorcery books. There's almost nothing.

There are a few gems out there, like Feed by M.T. Anderson and old classics like A Wrinkle In Time, but they are so buried among the derivative fantasy epics that the genre might as well not exist.

I would be happy to be proven wrong. I just hope there's a market for my book when I finish it.

snodipous

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> Cory who?

Rasselas

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> @Jeff-Minor:
Asking someone for help would likely be trusting someone over 22! ;)

wassermelone

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> I'm not sure about sci-fi, but there definitely seems to have been an explosion in YA fantasy, and I blame Harry Potter. (In a good way.) I was standing at the YA rack in a *Target* and I was blown away by all the fantasy series and titles that I could just feel my young self from ten years ago dying to read.

Maybe this crop of kids will grow into the next generation of sci-fi/fantasy fans, and then the adult market will burst, too.

bluewyvern

]]> <![CDATA[Are Adults More Ignored Than Children In SF Lit?]]> One has to imagine that anyone with an once of gray matter would simply ask someone who works as the book store for help, or use one of the computers that check inventory. The big box book sellers are guilty of pushing what the publishers pay them to push. When you see a table up front, or faced on a shelf, it's because the publishers pay extra for that. Tor should just pay to have Little Brother on a big table. Or to cross ref the authors (Docotrow: SF and YA sections.)

Jeff-Minor

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