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X: The Eliminator

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> speed racer will be this decade's "blade runner". really.

X: The Eliminator

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @MrLister: No, I'm simply going off of how the first Matrix ended. The sequels basically canceled out the original and completely stripped it of its meaning and purpose so that they could tell a story that the W Bros didn't plagiarize.

beelzebuddha

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @B: The answer to all of life's questions is monkey poop and animated penguins!!

Mr.SithNinja

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz: are you an idiot? Because only idiots make generalizations like that. I have empirical evidence

and for the record, the second and third matrix movies blew assholes, the first was un-fucking-believable and yes, I run ubuntu

-emory-

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Longsleeve or shortsleeve. Ya'll lose either way.

lazyeight

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I can answer that in 4 letters: IMAX.

SundaySundaySecondShift

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Foggynotion: You are clearly refering to the 20 min. orgy scene involving the entire remaining human race.

drukus

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @darcymcgee: Sorry, but an expanded universe and a few minor inconsistencies are not gonna lessen my appreciation for a film with an awesome battle between mechas and squid robots.

extracrispy

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @beelzebuddha: Er, no... the whole idea was that Neo was the one. Any assumtions you make about what the one is supposed to do are unfounded. Morpheus was wrong, the Architect is stupid and the Oracle was a liar.

To be fair, the sequels were not designed to be watched without the supplementary media of the animatrix, games and comics so to fully appreciate them you have to do a bit of work...

MrLister

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Foggynotion & @cljohnston108: You both huff spray paint. The Matrix sequels were some of the worst big budget movies made... next to the Star Wars prequels, that is.

Why did they suck? Because they lost sight of the story from the original Matrix. Gone was the story of a person trying to wake up the sleeping masses. The whole idea was that Neo was supposed to bring enlightenment and freedom to everyone trapped in the Matrix, right? Instead, the W Bros decided to follow the Lucas model of making movies and leave an open ending so that they could milk the Matrix teat in their old age.

All that venom spit, I think the W Bros will actually make a great movie out of Speed Racer. It's meant to be serial, its story is shallow and it's all about special effects -- there isn't a deep, mythic story to ruin.

beelzebuddha

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I was first in line for The Matrix at Grauman's Chinese, and saw the sequels there on their opening days as well.
Loved them all!
Maybe it's just something about that screen and that crowd?

cljohnston108

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]>

Bound was awesome. BTW, Here is my review of Speed Racer (saw it last week at WB):
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I enjoyed it. Of course I also enjoyed Acid in my early 20s but, ya know.

intr0vert

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @TheFemGeek: Bound I think is still their best film yet. Will probably see Speed Racer at some point.

aspiringexpatriate

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Dr. Futurity: I live to shock! Can't say the third matrix movie is my fav, but I can watch it in one sitting no problem.

@Speed Racer, I hate trailers, so never really watch em, but at the Iron Man showing a few nights ago, the trailer for Speed racer popped up... and I was bored... can't say I have much expectations for this.

Paganmoon

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @extracrispy: From the first movie:
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Tank : The leader of every ship is given codes to Zion's mainframe computer. If an agent got the codes and got into Zion's
_mainframe_...it could destroy us. We can't let that happen.
Tank : Trinity? Zion's more important than me, or you, or even
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And yet, in the third movie the issue of an attack on Zion's mainframe never comes up. It's a physical attack on the city.

More, from Morpheus:
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What is The Matrix? Control. The Matrix is a computer generated dream world, built to keep us under control in order to change a human being into this.
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but yes, he also says this:

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'As long as the Matrix exists, the human race will never be free.' After he died, the Oracle prophesied his return, and that his coming would hail thedestruction of the Matrix, end the war, bring freedom to our people
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but through the first two films, the physical manifestation of the Matrix was minimal: the story focused on the battle /inside/ the code.

Suddenly, in Revolutions Morpheus has competition? A board of directors? A general? These things are never discussed in the first film.

So I see a disconnect.

I never bought that Wachowski bullshit about "planning it as a trilogy all along." They made a great movie, a tonne of money and the studio wanted more. Suddenly a whole bunch of plot elements got created and grafted on the back end of the thing, with only the thinnest of connections to earlier work.

I call it "Lucas-itis" most times, but it happened here and it made the third Matrix film the weakest of them all, despite the presence of Monica Belluci's substantial (previously mentioned) assets, and Carrie Anne Moss in leather.

darcymcgee

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> You're forgetting the most obvious answer - it's better than the Matrix by default because it's not a fucking Matrix movie.

Seriously, even the first one was a piece of garbage.

bakana

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Woo, can't wait for the review, I'm hoping the movie turns out ok, not expecting great, I'm just hoping for "ok with seizure inducing acid trip looks"

Hrmm, getting a 29% on RT, but that's with 24 reviews...wow, Rex Reed is still alive? huh.

bitgod

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> The second Matrix movie was dreadful -- pompous and dull and not even bad enough to be funny. Didn't bother to see the third after that bitter pill.

magsman

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @dOk: Fred Smoot is the Viking most likely to be in charge of remote-controlled orgasms.

B

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz

I'm guessing that you would want your remote controlled orgasms to be controlled by Vikings ;)

dOk

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @BloggyMcBlogBlog: Even better, Keanu as Speed, Alex Winter (who totally got shafted, career-wise) as Speed's younger brother, and Hugo Weaving as Racer X.

But I'm a car geek, and this has John Goodman, so I'll probably end up as a fanboy even if it's the bad kind of incomprehensible.

Maymar - now with 37% less anonymity

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Personally, I thought the whole "what is reality" thing in the first one lifted it well above the norm for big budget scifi flicks; but the second one was a huge disappointment to me (what, you liked wirework kungfu? here, have a humongous helping of more of the same!).

The good thing about 2, though, was that it lowered my expectations enough that I was able to enjoy 3 as just an enjoyable action flick with a little new age frippery thrown in at the end.

drmaybe

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> how about...never make it in the first place?

Early reviews are trickling out, and this sounds like a stinker

trekkie

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Hang on, I don't think that those of us who thought 2 & 3 were tripe didn't understand it, the same story has been told before, and told better.

Sorry, you can polish this turd as long as you want, but it's just not that complex!

Blue Oyster Cultist

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> (The Matrix sequels explained)

bmoredlj

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bmoredlj

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Smeagol92055: Don't you mean an "extremely comfortable afternoon"?

Aethyr

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> The Vibe?

POLAЯ

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I don't mind sequels but for the love of Jesus please don't tie in religion at the end

causeiambetta

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @darcymcgee: Wait, the first movie was about finding The One who could end the war with the machines. And the third movie resolved that story. I'm not seeing the disconnect.

extracrispy

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I had a piece of chocolate cake earlier.
And then I spent an uncomfortable afternoon in my office chair.

Damn you, Merovingian!


Smeagol92055

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Not having a movie entitled and based on the concept of "Speed Racer" would make it better than the Matrix.

Paintbait

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Priam

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Epaminondas: 3's Zion plot was horrible. The entire series started with the noble goal of freeing humanity from its enslavement, and hardly a mention of Zion. In the end, the third movie was all about defending Zion from the machines. There's a disconnect there.

The movie did have some goodness though: Keanu & Carrie Anne get shagadelic; some kick ass fight scenes a la the first one (but a bit too a la...some could have BEEN the first ones.)

The second was better, and more original than the third. It wasn't as shocking as the first, but it was pretty bad ass. That scene where Laurence Fishburne rolls out of the way and takes out the twins' Cadillac with a Katana was just part of the awesome highway chase scene (and a good predictor of the quality level of domestic automotive product.)

darcymcgee

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I like that it's set in a candy colored skittletopia.

Dillenger69

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Gann: Viking Robots are better than all the others. Combined.

B

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Speed Racer is hovering around 35% on the Tomatometer, and that's the word of God as far as I'm concerned.

...and some of you, whom I respect no less, talking like Matrix 2 & 3 were any good at all? Bad io9 posters! Bad, Bad, io9 posters!!

Blue Oyster Cultist

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?

Probably me being eight years old again.

Rasselas

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Garrison Dean, King Awesome: Ah yes. Monica Belucci. I love the story about the Wachowskis telling her to let her breasts do the acting in Reloaded.

And those shots of her draped in honey and caviar.

I need a minute here...I'll be /right/ back.

darcymcgee

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> It does not have Carrie Anne Moss in leather, ergo it is not better than The Matrix.

It does not have Carrie Anne Moss in a wicked highway chase scene with a Ducati, ergo it is not better than The Matrix Reloaded.

There's a better than average chance that it's better than The Matrix Revolutions.

darcymcgee

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz: Although ninjas do have the highest comic appeal.
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Gann

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Gann: It's shocking what passes for a ninja these days.

Annalee Newitz

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Go Speed Racer! I will see it on DVD, provided I have a television worthy of movies by then. Currently I mooch off my friends.

Matrix Revolutions: One EM pulse device? ONE?? You couldn't make twenty more and keep them shielded? Honestly, I'll suspend disbelief for the fantastic (VR world, humans as batteries), but not for the stupid (didn't think to make another EM pulse device).

Nudemanatee

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz: Most people do not realize that Vikings kick more ass than pirates and ninjas combined. And robots.

Gann

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Foggynotion: I don't know about superior, but it definitely could have been a fine entrance into an awesome end story. Unfortunately it wasn't. The Matrix could have been a awesome trilogy if the writing was more pointed and didn't end in the soft sell that it was.

Castle1914

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Glad to see some love for the Matrix sequels.

@Dr. Futurity: The third one actually happens to be my favorite. And I assure you I can make it through it in one sitting.

extracrispy

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I going to see it, Speed Racer, at a IMAX theater on Saturday. Can't wait.

OldDog1

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @TheAstronot: Yup. What was confusing? The humans and machines are caught in a loop of mutual destruction until they can learn to coexist.

Garrison Dean, Mr. Privilege

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I got to see it last night too. It was fun, but parts of it seemed to jump around.

shrume

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @B: Let me save you the time. I thought the same thing a few months ago. I thought: "Maybe I was too hard on Matrix 3...and it's only 4.99 at Walmart".

No, it is unwatchable. If you make it 30 mins without getting up to do something else, I'd be shocked.

Dr. Futurity

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> Annalee, you forgot "No Keaneu Reeves" as an option.

BloggyMcBlogBlog

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Foggynotion: I don't know about better than The Matrix, but I'm with you that the sequels were way better than everyone seems to give them credit for. One shitty rave sequence and questionable Smiths vs. Neo CG isn't enough to ruin 4+ hours of car chases, flight fights, mecha vs squid robots, destroyed future landscapes and Monica Belucci.

Even though people complain when sequels just repeat the formula of the original I think that was what people hated about these. They weren't just people doing crazy chop sockey in the Matrix.

@Plague: Dude... Its Defamer. You should know better than to visit the land of Uniformed Snark. Say did you hear Lohan moved in with Samantha Ronson?! After she sold her out to the tabloids!!! Scandalous!

Garrison Dean, Mr. Privilege

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @TheAstronot: I found the third movie to be disappointing, but I enjoyed the first two. Maybe I should give the third another chance.

B

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz:
There wasn't a single pertinent point in that post except the usual "Waaaah! They don't do interviews! They like special effects!".

Yeah, that alone decides a movies quality.

Plague

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz:

Everyone loves Bound. Or at least...about 5 minutes of it...set to repeat....

/digs out his DVD

Theoban

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @TheFemGeek: Yay! I love Bound. And I will always have a soft spot in my heart for all three Matrix flicks.

Annalee Newitz

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I still don't understand why people didn't like the Matrix trilogy. All three movies made perfect sense to me.

TheAstronot

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Plague: I gotta say, despite the negative hype, Speed Racer was really good. I was incredibly surprised because all the advance publicity said "bomb," but the flick was fun all the way through.

Annalee Newitz

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> For me, this is not a movie I'll pay to see in the theatre. It's not a movie I'll pay to rent. It may not even be a movie I make time for when it's on free TV 4 years from now.

The SpeedRacer G.A.F. Factor is stitting at a steady zero.

diverguy

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz: I am glad you said what you did about it being better. I have some work I'm doing that may involve the brothers here in Chicago and so I have been biting my tongue. That being said I am still a fan of the Matrix and Bound :) (cheeese)

TheFemGeek

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz:
Monkey poop in bullet time? Uhhhh. Not so much.
Vikings riding Segways while having chocolate cake, remote induced orgasms in bullet time?
Oh HELLS yes!

Miranda Kali

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> No comment on this, but whoever wrote that blithering diatribe over at Defamer about this movie is an asshole. A stupid, utter jackoff.

I would write that on Defamer, but they'd probably banninate me.

Plague

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I know! I know!

...Only make one.

choinski

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz: Uhhh, no. And i only like Animated penguins when they are being eaten by whales.

B

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Foggynotion: Do you run UNIX or some flavor of it? Because only people who like UNIX (or GNU/Linux) like the second movie better than the first. I have empirical evidence.

Annalee Newitz

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Annalee Newitz: I assumed you feel that Vikings are awesome. Because they are.

B

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @B: Monkey poop in bullet time? C'mon, doesn't that appeal? Mwahahaah.

Annalee Newitz

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Dr. Futurity: A funny thing would be if Foggynotion said, "Oh, sorry -- I meant The Matrix Revolutions."

moff

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @moff: I guess it's pretty obvious, then. But what you don't know are my feelings about Vikings.

Annalee Newitz

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> I know it's not the chocolate cake t, because if there's one thing Annalee Newitz loves, it's remote-control orgasms.

moff

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> @Foggynotion: Wow. I've got to hear your support for this statement.

Dr. Futurity

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> If the answer is monkey poop and animated penguins, I'm never going to believe anything Annalee says ever again.

B

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> The Matrix: Reloaded is superior to the first film.

Foggynotion

]]> <![CDATA[What Would Make Speed Racer Better Than The Matrix?]]> All of the above! (but 'specialy the bit about no sequels.)

Miranda Kali

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