<![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> So you would have wanted The Incredibles and Team Fortress to have ultra-realistic humans, huh?

It's called 'trying to look cartoony'. Deal with it.

Kreachure

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Is there any possible way that General Grievous is in this? I need him in it!

SOG Cerberus

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @DocGratis: Yeah, I thought of the Final Fantasy movie too. Bastard. :) But can you honestly tell me you'd like Lucas to take that same visual approach with Star Wars?

Sharpless

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I think that the response is less to do with the quality of the work and more to do with the fact that us geek types just don't trust Lucas any more. At all. We wouldn't even ask him to watch our bag when we went to the bathroom in the cafe. If it were new material, the reception would be a lot less hostile.

But, yeah, my first thought was "wow, this looks like machinima." I would have preferred they stuck with the the previous series' style.

I'll hold out some hope, though. It generally turns out enjoyable, as long as you're willing to slog through the wrong bits.

Slatz_Grobnik

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @DocGratis:
When you get that realistic with the models you start running into the Uncanny Valley [en.wikipedia.org]
Something I can remember quite clearly about Spirits Within.

Until the underlying animation gets a lot better, it really is a good idea to go with stylized representations rather than ultra realism.

Belabras

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @Bob_of_Mars:

Very Ape-Descendant-Centric theory. The Dolphins think that sort of thing is hilarious. Ask one sometime...

russdanger

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> It'd be nice if Lucas left this period alone and worked on something else, past or future.

nonbreakingspace

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> God, this looks like crap. Complete and utter crap. I'll watch it on cable in a year.

BadThingUS

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Pretty damn awesome.

matriaya

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]>

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@Sharpless: I can name one...
The final fantasy CGI movie had better looking people (they did a shitty job on the hands, but the faces were better)

Go watch a clip for that and tell me the Star Wars one is better...

No they don't have the stylistic look of the Gendy Clone Wars, BUT neither does anything other than the people/aliens in this..

In the original Gendy Clone Wars EVERYTHING had that look, the clone troopers, the ships, everything...

Now they just ripped the look for the people because I guess they throught the realistic look that everything else has in the movie was too hard for humans.

Watch the clip again. The troopers, droids and ships all have gradation, dust, etc etc.. then the people look like crappy knock off of Gendy's work.
(and not as good as Gendy's original designs, the trimmed detail)

DocGratis

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Looks good to me. I don't know why people are complaining about the way the humans look. Can you name me one CGI cartoon that had realistic-looking humans? You can probably count them on one hand, if at all. It's far better to stylize them, than to try to make them "realistic," which will only result in Polar Express... In Space!

Also, I love the Samurai Jack / Clone Wars art styles. Quite brilliantly done.

Sharpless

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @jbq: Sorry, but are you talking about the little orange alien who looks like a 12 year old girl? Is that thing "smokin' hot"? You need to reevaluate your hotness scale in light of statutory rape laws.

Pope John Peeps II

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @Shyguy: If the story is good, that should be all that matters.

Yep, but we are talking about a mid-prequal of Star Wars:Clone Wars part II.

So we had better check the characters for angles..

DocGratis

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> They style of the original series, which was carried over to this series, was something that drew me to watch in the first place. Angular characters? So what! If the story is good, that should be all that matters.

Shyguy

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> So... a retread of a retread? I'd be interested if they did more than stick the Clone Wars cartoon in bad CG. As it stands, I'll wait until Lucas gets desperate enough for money to make another trilogy.

tinkyXIII

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @russdanger: Unless, of course, the Star Wars galaxy is our galaxy in the far distant future, and is simply told as 'once upon a time' tale. Then they ARE humans, more or less, just future-humans.

Another theory of my own making is that in reality, all the the aliens (and alien life-forms) are descendants of humans and other Earth-based life forms that somehow got separated from each other and thus evolved into what exists now in the Star Wars galaxy. Of course, this would make the whole story a whole lot older than originally thought...

Bob_of_Mars

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> You can watch the larger HD version of the trailer here on Starwars.com:

[www.starwars.com]

bonniegrrl

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> They're from a galaxy far, far away. How could anyone there be human? They only cast human actors in the previous movies to save money, this is closer to what the characters REALLY look like.
This rationale should help you enjoy the movie. Glad I could help.

russdanger

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Since I didn't give a frak about the characters in the last three movies, I don't care whether they look the same or not. That CGI doesn't look quite human is an old saw. And as Lucas isn't directing this one, there's a good chance it will tell a story to match the look

rightback12

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @johnnyichiban: Since I didn't give a frak about the characters in the last three movies, I don't care whether they look the same or not. That CGI doesn't look quite human is an old saw. And as Lucas isn't directing this one, there's a good chance it will tell a story to match the look.

rightback12

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @Scorpi: Jedi Hutt:

You know what? There are just too many jokes.

Smeagol92055

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Mmmm... Ashoka is smokin' hot! Too bad she's pixels only...

I, too, really liked Samurai Jack, and thought it was at times extremely clever.

jbq

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @exlawyer: Same thing was true of Episode 3, but it was still bad-ass (Eps 1 & 2 not so much).

Regarding the animation style, I like that they're keeping the same look throughout the Clone Wars cartoons (and carrying it into the new TV series).

sumocat

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @DeepFriar: haha, touche. At least the original movies had a plot.

hopskipper

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I'm looking forward to it. Star Wars has had me in thrall since '77. I'll be there with the popcorn and a cold beer.

Gambeson

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> fuck it. I'm excited. I know I'm in the minority, but whatever.

Loserface

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> gotta agree with the organic criticism. its almost like looking at a 'Antz' version of star wars= not good.

hopeing it doesn't turn out to be lame, thats all, really

causeiambetta

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I don't know if it's supposed to be, but that's definitely not the same trailer I saw on CNN last night. Almost identical, but there are several pretty noticeable differences, especially the text blurbs in the middle (which were totally absent in the CNN version).

tophtucker

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> What do you want from the technology, that is nothing else except production-convenient.

Dereks

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> this one was just for my own lunchtime curiosity/boredom, but felt I would share.

[picasaweb.google.com]

Garrison Dean, King Awesome

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @moff:
Total agreement RE: Jack and Ninja episode.

Belabras

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Lame, lame, lame, lame, lame, lame, lame. Lame.

SeeingI

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @exlawyer: Yes, you know how it all ends, but that doesn't mean there can't be good stories locked in there before everything goes boom. With that same reasoning you could have said that before they made the prequels, and while yes, they didn't turn out very well, it wasn't because you knew what was going to happen, it was because the writing and acting were terrible. Hopefully Lucas isn't writing all of the Clone Wars and luckily there won't be real actors. I think it'll be a fun movie and series, nothing ground breaking, just some cool entertainment.

nrp211

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @exlawyer: Yes. But at the same time, I wouldn't be very excited if he announced that he was going to do Episodes VII-IX or a project from another era of the mythos, either. I just now realized that, beyond the six films and the two Ewok movies, I just do not care about Star Wars. And I never have. I thought the Thrawn books were pretty good, and I've delved a little bit more than that into the Expanded Universe, but if all of the brain cells containing those memories were taken from me, it would matter not a whit to my well-being.

I mean: We get it, George. Good defeats evil. Magic DNA that gives you psychic powers. Blasters. A fantasy for the kid inside every grown-up. Whatever.

@Qev: I always thought the animation in Jack was gorgeous! Reminiscent of medieval Japanese art but allowing for the total fluidity a great action cartoon needed. They did some brilliant stuff, too -- like the ninja episode with the white and black?

moff

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @hopskipper: sooo, you liked the movies for their dialogue?

DeepFriar

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> "Everything mechanical and alien is quite sharp." ... "But as for the actual human beings, they stick out like a sore thumb."

So... Just like every Star Wars movie before it?

workingonyourinvoice

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I wonder if Gendy Tartakovsky will be getting a credit for the series, seeing as they appear to be lifting his character designs from the animated shorts whole cloth.

Eh, maybe I'm just bitter that he hasn't seemed to produce anything for awhile. Oh, Dexter's Lab, how we miss thee :(

AngryLagomorph

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I think the new look is fantastic - by the way, Jabba the Hutt is much improved, now quite badass. He looks like he has plating. I wonder if the fabled Jedi Hutt will make it into the series...

Scorpi

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> "Also, none of the human voices seem to match their characters."

I seem to remember they are using the same voice-over actors as they did for the original Clone-Wars seasons on CN. And, no, they sound nothing like their live-action versions. I remember they used those voices in the EPIII console game as well, it was especially evident how far off the voices were when you'd have a cinematic cut-scene from the movie with the real actors, then go into gameplay with the voice-over actors. Night and day difference when you hear them back to back like that.

And, yes, the Yoda voice-over gets realllllly old realllllly fast.

AZTriGuy

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Does anyone else have the same conceptual problem with this series, that I do? We know how the clone wars end already.

Sure maybe they save Jabba' kid (Stavros Hutt?) So what? In the end the Jedi all get slaughtered. We already know Anakin turns to the darkside and appears on Deal or No Deal

Doesn't that make all this pointless?

exlawyer

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Looks awesome. I realized what it is!!! Team Fortress Star Wars!

But seriously people, this is gonna be a TV show, so stylizing it will help the production look better in the end. If it looked way more realistic the battles and scope would probably suffer because they'd be worrying so much about the little details in the character rendering. Heavy Design helps animation its why lower frame rate anime looks better than things like the American Avengers cartoon movie.

Garrison Dean, King Awesome

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I rather liked the Clone Wars cartoon, not to mention Samurai Jack - in no small part due to the unique visual style.

Everybody's different I guess.

Belabras

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Let's hope it's not like the unwatchable Clone Wars animated series.

Yoda, "there is a battle on this planet"
pew pew pew!

Yoda, "now go to this planet"
pew pew pew!

During which you watch clone troopers silently use hand signals while blatantly walking down the middle of the street as if directed by Gus Vant Sant.

hopskipper

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> No, the style for Samurai Jack was terrible, full stop. It, and the Clone Wars cartoon, always came across to me as cheap website Flash posing as animated features. Rendering a style that looked awful in 2D into 3D isn't improving things any.

YMMV, of course. :)

Qev

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> George couldn't make it work as a live action, maybe he can do it as a cartoon. All be it a really fancy cartoon.

reddingofish

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I used to think that the style for Samurai Jack was terrible, too, until I realized that the style fit what they were going for.

I think I can take that humans have a distinct look of their own compared to even the humanoid aliens.

So I'll wait and see. Considering I wasn't even remotely interested in this before the trailer, it's a good sign to me.

Thenomain

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Uh... I meant exponentially.

Nealjs

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Yoda's dialogue gets expotentially annoying installment after installment.

Nealjs

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> @moff: "Except for anything organic"

Droids, Clone troopers, ships all get excellent treatment, if it grows (and isn't covered with metal/plastic is sucks...

I have been complaining about this aspect of the project from the first pics/trailers...

They suggest that it is a computer generated-based on the Clone Wars animated, but there everything had the animated/cartoon stylized look.. not just the 'organics" and it makes it look stupid..

DocGratis

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> This looks a lot more like a video game trailer than a movie trailer.

perun99

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Isn't the look supposed to be inspired by the Thunderbirds puppets? The humans look a little better if you take that into account.

I have very little interest in Clone Wars myself, but my son is really looking forward to it.

CSX321

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Eh, I like the new look, especially on Doku. As for Anaken being a completely different person - you say that as though it were a bad thing. ;D

Belabras

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> I like how it says "Except for the Humans," but then right beneath that is the scariest fucking picture of Yoda ever.

moff

]]> <![CDATA[Clone Wars Looks Great, Except For The Humans]]> Hey that looks like a great video game... ;-)

johnnyichiban

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